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Mountain lion sightings in New Hampshire Whether mountain lions are in the Granite State has long been the subject of debate and conspiracy. There is no evidence of a reproducing mountain lion population in Massachusetts, MassWildlife says on its website. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. Hear the full interview: Megafauna mania: our obsession with mountain lions and other large predators. Mountain lions weigh . Patrick Tate: So one thing I'd say is DNA would definitely identify an animal animal's Mark line or not. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. These tracks were fresh and well photographed. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. We send out DNA samples to the U.S. Forest Service Rocky Mountain Research Station. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. He knew it was only a matter of time. [The catamounts] movements were so noiseless that Mr. Crowell found himself in this dangerous proximity before he was aware of it, and it was only by great coolness and daring that he severely wounded the animal and perhaps saved his own life, reads a placard attached to the display case. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Sam Evans-Brown: Well first I want to sort of explain why what the theory is but then also throw a bit of cold water on it because I don't think there's much much logic behind it but essentially is that if fish and game were to acknowledge that there was a population of Mount lions in the state there's a chance that something like a listing under the federal Endangered Species Act might happen and then there'd be you know some they'd have to put a plan in place to protect the species there'd be you know restrictions put on development. Can we go to the site. But a high-profile sighting in 2011 stirred up renewed interest in the animals here, when a mountain lion from South Dakota was hit and killed by a car on a Connecticut highway. This is why tangible evidence is so important. Mountain Lions Spotted Spotted in Woodbridge, CT - NECN So Michael follows with the question. Peter Biello: Rick I believe you did mention that that they do leave carcasses up in the tree from time to time but are there any other species known in New Hampshire to do this on a regular basis. Now Bobcat is a completely different species. Mountain lion or cat running across. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. So give us a call now. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. Caller: Oh yeah. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. It's you know I recognized their report and. Because he lives among them, Harrigan understands that no one knows the woods better. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. Something along those lines. Are the mountain lion sightings in Monterey for real? Most mountain lion sightings are reported without any evidence other than eyewitness descriptions. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. Many people do not realize how large a grown Bobcat is. Mountain lion sighting-By Virginia June 25, 2017 at 11:23:56 AM. Here are few facts you should know about bats and a few myths to forget. Support NHPR by becoming a sustaining member today! But it also sort of instills that fear, a healthy fear of humans and bears. Tracker: It's only a matter of time before mountain lions return to NH Fish and Game looked into the labs to have them confirm the information in the reports which the labs did not. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. I pull it up but may not have done so soon enough. Re (2): Mountain Lion sighting in Brookfield ct - By Ryan January 31, 2016 at 11:16:51 PM. Peter Biello: Well John thanks very much for the story really appreciate it. I've actually had to walk in on one or two now and look at what was going on and figured out what was going on. Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. 3 min read. Tell us your story. In April 1997, tracker John McCarter found scat near a beaver carcass at the Quabbin Reservation. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. m from a weed family Automotive on store Street in Concord is serving the Concord area families automotive needs since 1995. In 2011, the U.S. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. Thanks for your call. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. Peter Biello: The number is 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. In Massachusetts Wildlife magazine (No. Mike thanks for your call. Here it is. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. Sam Evans-Brown: You know the North America had a number of large predator species when humans first arrived in the continent. Mistaken reports of mountain lions in Massachusetts are most commonly Bobcats. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. Growing up in northern Vermont, Id heard stories of sightings, though always a few steps removed from the tellersomebodys cousin had seen a cougar cross the road on their way home from deer camp up in Canaan (or was it Coventry? MassWildlife receives dozens of reportsa year, most are simplyreportsor sightings with no evidence. A: It is less common than many other invasives but is found here in the Berkshires. Morse has been tracking cougars for 45 years, mostly in the mountains of the West, where their existence is not in doubt. But perhaps an even larger portion is the product of his enduring faith in the men and womanloggers, hunters, trapperswhose vocations and avocations have instilled in them a deep familiarity with wild places and the creatures who inhabit them. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. People often get very emotional about it, Hawley says. This mountain lion was documented by DNA samples from Minnesota and Wisconsin between December 2009 and early 2010. Indeed, one of her steadiest sources of funding for Keeping Track is a presentation on cougars that has been known to draw more than 500 audience members. Q: I recently read the book "The Scarlet Pimpernel" by Sir Percy Blakeney and was telling a friend about it, and she reminded me that it is also is a wildflower. Yeah I did. Patrick Tate: My line being a large predator a cat watch ambush his prey animal that hasn't been. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. I'm Peter B yellow. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. She lives near the end of a gravel road in a modest, low-slung house tucked into the flanks of the Green Mountains. He set down his cigarette and looked me in the eye. And the second question is this a behavior mountain lions exhibit. Betsy started as an intern at WNPR in 2011 after earning a Master's Degree in American and Museum Studies from Trinity College. And trying to figure out the little pieces to identify him so I bring up the names the differences but the appearances can be confusing for some. Evidence could include the body of a dead mountain lion or a live wild-captured animal; photos or video, in which a mountain lion can be identified and MassWildlife can confirm the location; DNA evidence from hair, scat, etc. Its quite an uphill challenge for us to manage that situation right now. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. Bobcats in Feeding Hills - By Claire October 3, 2014 at 09:39:37 PM. Peter Biello: Oh okay. Thanks for a great thanks. So now what's going on. ), or someones coworkers mother had seen one from the back porch of a summer camp back in 07 or maybe 08, and shed tried to get a picture but this was before she got her first iPhone, and by the time shed retrieved her camera from the living room, the cat was long gone. People clearly arent lying when they say they saw a cougar; [the sighting] has a profound effect on them., Still, Spatz acknowledged that the word hope is very different from the word believe. Morse founded Keeping Track in the belief that getting citizens interested and engaged in wildlife will have the knock-on effect of getting them interested and engaged in how land-use decisions affect wild populationsand might provide the impetus for conservation efforts. I was a Bobcat we saw it and I have a picture of it. New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board's Message Board Listeners we'd love to hear some of your thoughts on this. Bats have no interest in your hair! When I accepted the assignment to write about my quest to uncover the truth regarding the existence of cougars in New England, I had little idea what I was agreeing to. A few years later, though, the scat was retested with DNA analysis and found to be canid, rather than feline, in origin. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. Watch. The feedback will only be used for improving the website. Top-requested sites to log in to services provided by the state. I have learned one thing in my career, and thats to never say never, she said. Even in the controlled environment of a lab, the truth about Eastern cougars seems to be almost willfully eluding its seekers. There's just one subspecies of North American mountain lion. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. Fish and Wildlife Service unofficially declared the Eastern cougar extinct. Nowhere in New England is the matter definitively settled. They just end up in these places. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. Caller: I cannot recall or see the tail in my in my image of it. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. No doubt in my mind it was. It is difficult to know if someone saw a mountain lion without any tangible evidence. And theres another school of thought, Well, no, there just are too many of them probably we have to reduce that population somehow. Where do you fall in that whole continuum? All these photos were taken in a state other than Massachusetts. Patrick Tate: So it's interesting it's brought up. Tracking experts Paul Rezendes, Charles Worsham, George Leoniak, and Dr. Mark Elbroch examined the photos. Bill and I are full-throttle. We strolled across the tavern parking lot and ducked into the forest, where Ottmann maintains a portion of his $15,000 worth of wildlife recording equipment (hes had no luck capturing a cougar on camera, though, despite more than a decade of trying). I didn't see him online. Harrigan is 72 and lives just outside the northern New Hampshire town of Colebrook; he has a long, craggy face that seems almost to have molded itself after the mountainous landscape of his home state. Still, sightings are common. The Spatz and Sue Ottmann referred to are Christopher Spatz and Sue Morse, two of the better-known and arguably most experienced cougar skeptics in the Northeast. Coyotes have been mistaken for mountain lions. In certain situations, the similarities in the silhouette are remarkable. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. I didn't realize mullein was an invasive even though I have it popping up in strange placesin my yard every year. If it's just in the middle of a greenfield you can't prove anything. Have a photo. Love hearing these stories. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. We hadnt seen a cougar, nor any evidence to suggest a cougar had traveled these woods recently. In the 37 years Ive been working, things have changed in ways Id never have predicted. Patrick's reporting has appeared on NPR's Morning Edition, Here & Now, and All Things Considered. And Rick Van de Poll naturalist and founder of ecosystem management consultants of New England. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Kim Royar, a biologist at the Vermont Fish and Wildlife Department, told me she receives 40 to 50 reports annually, and although she believes that few, if any, are actual cougar sightings, she doesnt dismiss the possibility that someday someone will happen upon the real deal. Its not my call. Are there mountain lions in Massachusetts? | Mass.gov Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. He writes As a farmer I come across many outdoorsman looking to hunt our property had a conversation with one who believed very strongly that we had mountain lions in New Hampshire. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. This isnt to say she believes none of these animals has stepped foot on New England soil over the past century. We need [an apex] predator back on the land, Sue Morse told me. So that did it for me. And yet there I was, on a Saturday in early November, crammed into a booth with Bo Ottmann, 48, and Bill Betty, 72, of Cougars of the Valley, the organization that Ottmann founded in 2007 to gather evidence of and alert the public to the big cats living among us. I mean I that said I've lived out west for nine years. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. And so. Colorado and California have the highest estimated populations of mountain lions in the United States. Caller: I do. What set it off was a National Geographic special on mountain lions in California, right after my daughter and I had two encounters in my driveway, Betty told me. Peter Biello: Ok. I found a second scat scent both to him. In March 2011, DCR forester Steve Ward photographed a track trail in the snow near the Gate 8 boat launch area of Quabbin Reservoir. I was able to look up the particulars and photos online. And it came out we could see it had and we could see its long swooping tail. Sam Evans-Brown: What he would have stopped as well I think is way way that the reason that mountain lion kept moving is because he wasn't finding anybody. Seeing the real thing is always possible, but a sighting of a genuine Moun-tain Lion in New England is so rare that it is the wildlife equivalent of winning a jackpot in the MegaMillions lottery. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. Thank you. When you look at a state like Connecticut, with all the people we have here, all the trail cameras we have in the woods, all the cars we have driving you can imagine if we had an established population here in Connecticut, we would know about it pretty quickly. They were able to do all that by genetics. We want answers. Peter Biello: Wow. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. John thanks. Pat do they typically just move around a lot. Connecticut Dept. Patrick Tate: Yes. Re(2): Webster update - Misunderstanding! Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. When they fly, it is more like a burst and reaches around 50 mph. Mar 1, 2017 - All the latest news and updates of New England Mountain Lion Sighting Bulletin Board's Message Board. And there are different schools of thought about that. Betty had driven up from his home in Rhode Island. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. However, there have been two confirmed reports of mountain lions in the state in the last 30 years. They absolutely do. If these animals are not in the habitat, what we see is an overabundance of herbivores., The ecologist John Laundre, who has spent 35 years studying cougars, concurs. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal likely trekked more than 1,500 miles from South Dakota, a journey that was captured by trail camera (above). There was a lot of DNA evidence. Still, sightings are common. I mean that so many of them are false sightings we. Further, it is already illegal to kill a mountain lion in Massachusetts. You could have 50. MassWildlife cannot investigate or confirm mountain lion reports without any evidence. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. All they think it traveled north through Canada up you know crossed across the Great Lakes and then and then down again through New York State. Rick van de Poll: Rick van de Poll so I was a non-believer as well. I was at the Sentinel as a reporter there for about four years and during that time I probably wrote close to a half dozen stories or so on this topic including a lengthy feature at one point that in which I spoke to several people from around the banana region claimed to have seen mountain lions that at one time or another. Peter Biello: Well yeah. He also collects sighting reports on his blog, simply dubbed, "New Hampshire Mountain Lion." The blog still gets sightings, most recently on Aug. 3. Okay. It continues in Connecticut, where that South Dakota cat was killed in 2011, and in Massachusetts, despite two credible reports in the past quarter century (in one case, DNA-confirmed scat; in the other, verified tracks). And they were using all the habitat. For mountain lions in Connecticut, a lack of evidence is very good evidence. They certainly have, you know, lower levels of conflicts and home entries than we do here in Connecticut. 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